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Marty Hall – I Told You So

by John Symon

December 24, 2014 – The recent news about allegations of widespread, systemic, and apparently state-sponsored doping in Russia as portrayed in a recent German TV documentary (see link below) created a lot of furor with WADA announcing an investigation supported by the association’s Athlete Committee Chair, Beckie Scott. The documentary claims that current Russian sports practices are simply continuing the doping practices common under the former Soviet Union (USSR) and one person is not surprised – Marty Hall.

In fact, Hall, who coached both the US national Nordic ski the Canadian national Nordic team, has been complaining about this situation since the 1970s when athletes from the USSR and other communist countries were dominating podiums.

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We caught up with Hall who sent us clippings from the Calgary Herald and Calgary Sun dating from 1988 in which he is quoted as complaining that the east bloc country athletes were doping. Often described as “opinionated and controversial” Hall almost lost his coaching job for being so outspoken about doping during the 1988 Games in Calgary; he hasn’t changed in that respect. “I don’t care what happens to me,” Hall, now in his mid 70s, told this reporter.

“Pierre Harvey [Canada’s brightest XC hope in the late 1980s and father of Alex] in 1988 should have been in top 5; instead was in top 15,” gripes Hall about the 1988 Calgary Winter Games. Hall reveals that Harvey almost quit the sport after those disappointing Olympics on home soil, but Harvey’s wife encouraged him to go back to Europe for two more World Cups. He took home the 30 km CL victory in Falun, Sweden and the 50km CL in Oslo, Norway at the famous Holmenkollen. Harvey holds the distinction of winning Canada’s first-ever World Cup in 1987 at Falun in the 30km FR.

A recounting of the top finishers at the Calgary Olympics is dominated by red flags of the former Soviet Union and other east bloc countries with a sprinkling of western European flags. The US team won 8th place in the 4 X 5km relay while no Canadian flags are to be seen in the top results (as reported by Wikipedia – see link below).

Red flags, of course, have a double meaning and also denote signs that something can be horribly wrong. Hall recounts an earlier period at the 1974 Worlds when he coached US skier Martha Rockwell. “Of the first 12 finishers, only three were not from Communist countries. What about the Norwegians and Swedes?” he asked, referring to the nationalities which normally dominate Nordic skiing. His insinuation is that when nationalities without a strong tradition in the sport begin dominating, there are red flags with those results.

Hall is not naïve to suggest doping is absent in the West, but points to a case where a US coach turned in one of his skiers for doping. He uses this anecdote to illustrate the integrity of the US and Canadian systems.

“But the people who piss me [off are the ones in positions of power who did nothing]. They didn’t want to embarrass the sport or lose sponsors!” says Hall. He spoke at length about the lack of will from leaders of the sport’s international governing bodies – the Federation Internationale de Ski (FIS) and past presidents of the International Olympic Committee (IOC).

Those who followed the Lance Armstrong doping scandal will be familiar with allegations of complicity on the part of the UCI, cycling’s governing body. Hall’s comments suggest the same in cross-country skiing – is it the same in soccer, running and other sports where high profile doping cases have been exposed ?

There is one name at the top whom Hall speaks well of – Canadian Dick Pound. “He used to be [a big guy with the] IOC; then he went to start the World Anti-Doping Agency (WADA); that screwed him up back at the IOC! He was a dedicated enemy of the druggies.” Pound twice served as VP of the IOC and was a former candidate to become president there. Hall insinuates that the IOC wouldn’t want a president who would take such a hard line against dopers.

Hall’s criticisms of the former Soviet Union go beyond simply doping; he accuses those involved of trying to intimidate non-Soviet athletes and recalls travelling to the region with sisters, Shirley and Sharon Firth, who dominated the Canadian women’s cross-country skiing scene from 1972 to 1984. The two sisters told Hall they were told “…you’ve got to be with us” basically the whole time that they were in the USSR.

Hall remains well-connected and is on top of what is going on elsewhere in the sport, noting that the situation has improved in some countries. “They got the Italians to stop [doping]; it’s now a felony there. Italians joke: ‘We don’t dope anymore because we could go to jail!’”

Hall recounts Canadian Beckie Scott’s now famous bronze at the 2002 Games in Salt Lake City that became gold two years later. The initial gold and silver winners – both Russians – slipped away on a snowmobile before they could be tested for doping but they were caught later and disqualified. “Now skipping a test is the same as failing it.”

Apart from legal sanctions, Hall advocates more “No notice testing.” He mentioned the case of Austrian Johannes Duerr who tested positive for EPO around the time of the Sochi Olympics after multiple negative tests. Hall claims that traces of EPO only remain in the body for half a day and complains that if authorities always test athletes at the same time of day, doping athletes can quickly figure out how to avoid getting caught.

“The good guys have made a lot of gains since 1988,” replies Hall when asked if he is generally more optimistic or pessimistic about the outlook for stamping out doping.

Marty Hall coached the US ski team from 1969-78 and then coached the Canadian team from 1982-1992. He developed the trails and stadium used for the 1995 FIS Nordic World Ski Championships in Thunder Bay, ON. In the 1970s, he designed and oversaw construction of the American Birkiebeiner Trail in Cable WI.

SkiTrax’s previous article on doping in Russia here.
Nordic results from 1998 Calgary Olympics (Wikipedia) here.





2 Comments For This Post

  1. xcskier22, Montana, says:

    Marty, I’ve got a bridge in Brooklyn to sell you if you think the Russians are the only ones doping, systematically or otherwise. You can’t tell me that a skier that looks more like a bodybuilder can dominate a 10km race, get less than 24 hours recover then promptly destroy the field in a sprint and not look tired doing it. There is also a certain gentleman that is almost 41 that dominated the sport during the EPO/blood doping era and is still winning races against people that are 15-20 years younger. This guy disappears in the Italian Dolomites and takes strategic breaks in racing and then wins on his return.

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=11141961

    In regards to the Russians and the ARD documentary. I am sure various subjects being discussed in the documentary are true, but you have to question the timing of the documentary. As we’ve learned (well, most of us anyway) from history, German media can be very good at spinning things and if you look at their medal haul from Sochi and compare it to Vancouver, you can see why Mr. Seppelt and ARD are so eager to pounce. I have to ask Mr Seppelt as to why he, in all his years of journalism, never suspected German soccer (football) of systematic doping?

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/09/sports/west-germany-engaged-in-sports-doping-in-1970s-study-says.html?pagewanted=all

    http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/07/sports/soccer/Doping-Study-Throws-Shadow-Over-Germanys-Success.html

    How about questioning Magdalena Neuner and her retirement from biathlon at barely 25 years of age?

    This is another great article:
    http://www.voxeurop.eu/en/content/article/74681-vienna-european-capital-doping

    Filbrich, Teichmann, Angerer and Muehlegg were all clients there and also the Freiburg lab (famous for supplying various cyclists and endurance athletes).

    This is one of the Austrian suppliers:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Matschiner

    I would also encourage you and your readers to take a look at this great Swedish documentary:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrPmVv0rXjA

    And here are some articles about it:

    http://blog.dopinglist.com/wordpress/2013/03/01/following-a-blood-trail/

    http://blogs.fasterskier.com/insidetrack/2013/02/28/finnish-film-accuses-daehlie-and-others-of-doping-in-the-90s/

    http://www.newsinenglish.no/2013/02/28/1990s-ski-heroes-in-doping-storm/

    I mean, who really thinks skiers like Daehlie, Alsgaard and Skari were clean, while dominating a whole host of Finns, Russians, Austrians, Germans and Italians who were doping at the height of the EPO/blood doping era? In fact, the only Russians that were anywhere near Daehlie, Alsgaard, Ulvang, Jevne and Sivertsen were Prokurorov and Botvinov in the 90’s. We know what happened to Botvinov years later…

    I am not going to get into Track and Field and Cycling as those sports have become a joke with the vast majority of competitors being doped to the gills. The Kenyans have their own troubles brewing:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/12/20/sports/failed-doping-test-by-rita-jeptoo-kenyan-marathon-champion-is-confirmed.html

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/11/07/sports/holes-in-kenyas-doping-system-cast-a-shadow-on-all-its-runners.html

    And so do the Jamaicans:

    http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/athletics/24900565

    I’ve mentioned numerous times that the three main sports in the US have long been riddled with heavy juicing. MLB, NFL, and the NBA. There is as much fire there as there is in any sport and any country, Russia included. I would urge the anti-doping heroes of the Nordic world that get fired up about foreign dopers in our sport to have a look at their own backyard and show the same concern and stop glorifying these corporate funded and driven sports that have been fueled by PED abusers, vast majority of them multi-millionaire stars that the general populace fawns over.

    Here is an interesting tennis forum on doping:

    http://tennishasasteroidproblem.blogspot.com

    To finish my ‘rant,’ I am going to paste another NY times article on Biathlon and the doping that continues to rule it:

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/07/sports/olympics/athletes-change-but-stain-of-doping-lingers.html

    This is what is troublesome to me: “He told me that two biathletes from those Games had also tested positive for the drug on the final day, but that he and the International Olympic Committee president at the time, Jacques Rogge, had decided against pursuing their cases because “it would raise a huge stink around the world.” I mean, really?? Talk about cover ups! Right up there with USATF, IOC and USOC covering up numerous Carl Lewis positive dope tests in the 80’s and USA Cycling, WADA and UCI covering up numerous Lance Armstrong positives in the late 90’s and early 2000’s.

  2. Marty Hall, NH, USA says:

    Davor—sorry to be slow in responding—a lot to digest—still working on it—also some Christmas stuff going on.
    My concern with what I wrote is that I know the problem is still there—-to what extent I’m not as sure as you are. What you have written is quite well supported and documented–and makes me even more sad when it comes to the clean athletes.
    When this thing blows up there are going to be a lot of people who should and hopefully be incriminated—-I just hope Pound is up to the task.
    Even SkiTraxs held back names I brought up—as you can see Rogge and Caitlin held back sanctions on the last Olympics for athletes they had caught. At least it was out in the open.
    Keep me straight Davor—-good comments and support materials.

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